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PostSubject: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:00 pm

mine has to be michael schumacher hes a legend in my eyes there has never been anybody better...............


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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:14 am

Ayrton Senna without a doubt....

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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:22 am

he was good but schumacher was better
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:38 pm

for shear guts and bravery i got to go with sir sterling moss,just look at what they had to deal with in them days ,
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:52 pm

if you can count rallying then colin mcrae
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:40 pm

Senna no arguments, schumacher just happened to be in the right car and have a team work around him and cheated and bent the rules because he could get away with it.
Senna had god given talent and was at one with any car he drove in anger.
Schumacher was just good in the wet.


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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:42 pm

Colin Mcrae is one of my idols absolutely loved him ,
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:09 pm

Mansell FTW
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:12 pm

ken block has some serious skuills but ya cant call skills like that racing...

im a pretty good driver...
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:12 pm

BoyPoy wrote:
Mansell FTW

i was thinking mansell.....

how bout stiggy..
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:19 pm

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ken block has some serious skills but ya cant call skills like that racing...

I think Ken is more of a show boater really.... hes awesome on tracks that he has designed and raced on a few times but as his poor show in the WRC this year shows, he's not really that fast around the course... time will tell though....


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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:22 pm

never a fan of Mansell.... it was like watching an old man behind the wheel... Button is better than Mansell...

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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:34 pm

how about the wee man jackie...
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:41 pm

McRae was good but Leob is the all time rally daddy, he smashed everybody for years Valentino Rossi is awesome aswell, Carlos seinz is still racing and winning the Dakar he was cracking for Toyota back in the day!!
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:15 pm

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never a fan of Mansell.... it was like watching an old man behind the wheel... Button is better than Mansell...

total bull

Mansell always got the best out of whatever he drove.

Button needs perfect car balance or he's average at best.

Even now in his 50's Mansell still cuts it.
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:46 am

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Jon wrote:
never a fan of Mansell.... it was like watching an old man behind the wheel... Button is better than Mansell...

total bull

Mansell always got the best out of whatever he drove.

Button needs perfect car balance or he's average at best.

Even now in his 50's Mansell still cuts it.

Like I said... I was never a fan of him... each to there own and that...

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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:16 pm

Yeah I liked mansell but always liked Schumacher more
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:35 pm

Senna had a lot more car control than any of the newer drivers he may not have won as much but to watch the scraps he got into and some slow mo videos shows his skill

But as much as i hate him cant doubt seb loeb for skill behind the wheel true skill on tarmac the lines he runs compared to anyone else. Mcrea was alwasys on the edge greate driver but to risky which cost him champion ship more than once. Tommi mackinen was a great allrounder aswell as richard burns. But all drivers have there own merits but senna has to be greatest just on car control in the old cars to think they were running slicks fully manual gearboxes just great. Schumacher is an obviouse choice cause of his wins but poor car and he had no chance
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:19 pm

benny wrote:
Schumacher is an obviouse choice cause of his wins but poor car and he had no chance

Exactly... look at him now... Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:57 am

I think you have to judge each driver by their skill at the time of their racing career.
Back in the 60's and 70's the cars were basic, lots of power, not a lot of grip and no safety watsoever meaning the drivers had proper skills and bassive boloxs. Hunt, Villeneuve etc.

Back in the 80's and 90's it started coming down to the amont of money the teams had and the better the car and team. Shumi had the best car and was in the best team with the most amout of cash, hence he won everything. Now he is in a lower league team we can see is only an average driver using some pretty 5hit moves on other drivers to stay ahead (Rubens in the wall for example). The time of the superstar drivers was starting (Prost, Senna) in 1500bhp Turbo cars making them hero's in their own right.

Now in the noughties its down to who has the most technology supported by the biggest bank account. If you look at the running of a modern day F1 team its clear to see that the driver is just another cog in the workings of the team and propberbly only accounts for 30% of the overall packadge. Even drivers as good as Hamilton say the past drivers were better as it was down to raw talent not technology.

All in all its hard to pick one driver so i wont.

70's F1 = Villeneuve
80' F1 = Senna
90's F1 = Shumi
00's F1 = Shumi

70's WRC = Roger Clarke
80's WRC = Walter Rohl
90's WRC = Tommi Makinen
00's WRC = Seb Loeb
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PostSubject: Re: greatest racing driver of all time.......... Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:30 pm

ive been looking at a few of my mates classic car and italian car mags its always got reviews of drivers from the late 50's doin the mille milla in italy now they were hard core doing speeds of upto 150mph on them skinny little tyres dodgy breaks and no fire proof clothing, i would love to see proper night time racing in f1 that will bring out the men from the boys and see who can race at night in the pissing down rain
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