Banded alloys

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

Ok so i got a set of original wheels but they are a woeful 6j! pffft

They are Ally what do you rekon are the chances of gettin a dish put on em over winter when they are off my car?? A similar process to banded steel but with my wheels obviously I'd need another set of wheels to butcher?!

Comments anyone? Shocked

LOL

If im being a complete tard about this just say Smile

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

somehow alloy banded wouldn't be very good... you'd be lucky to find somewhere that would carry out this due to the stresses that would be put into the weld...

Steel is far stronger thats why you can band them...

. Posts : 4314 Join date : 2009-07-20

never heard of anybody doing this mate you could try but like jon says ally dosnt hold up to stress as good as steel thats why you can band steel the ally welds would prob crack if you hat a pot hole or a nasty bump in the road

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

Thought so............
****! Ok next question anyone know anywhere that machines wheels? Cool

i have a space station file ready to cut just need a fat arse lump of ally!
Actually the would probably cut a giant coin type piece then whack it in a loop and heat the fecker up but you know what i mean! Smile

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

how much money is in your pocket?

to have a design turned into reality will cost you some serious £££

you've got the wages of the guy programming the 5 axis CNC, his time spent machining, the cost of raw materials, quality checks and the finishing..

unless you know someone with a machine capable then you'd be looking min £1500 depending upon how complex the design is.

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

FWAAA lol basically i wanna get my wheels with a dish! Shocked

but in reality its pretty hard! dunno what do.

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

the ones already on the golf? if so not gona happen... never seen any similar wheels with any dish...

your going to have to change them for actual wheels with some lips...

. Posts : 4314 Join date : 2009-07-20

if your thinking of spending big money get a set of bbs rs mate would be cheaper than spending money and time on having a big piece of ally machined i mean the last time i weighted in ally i got 17 quid for 20 kg so it aint a cheap metal

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

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staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

Hmm what u rekon £300 notes?

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

thought you wanted some dish?

Banned Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-07-27

They look pretty similar to the la castellet's on you've got on now....
Infact, arn't they the same wheels?

Banned Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-07-27

And the half inch lip isn't really noticeable..

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

Hmmmm! Lol they are a little wider think it more noticable in real life!! wat u rekon give em a miss then? thumbs down

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

some dish

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vw-Golf-Gti-mk1-mk2-RH-Deep-Dish-Alloys-ats-mim-borbet_W0QQitemZ280397046896QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET?hash=item4148f76470&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

only 7 j thought

. Posts : 4314 Join date : 2009-07-20

yeah the front is 7 j the rears are 8 j mate and they got dish them others aint worth 300 notes mate they batterd and all need a full re-firb

. Posts : 7423 Join date : 2009-06-17

Unless you want crazy police pulling 8 or 9's on the front then 7's for the fronts are spot on...

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

I guess il keep my eyes on them I think cheers
I have done some research on the dished le castellets there where on 50pairs made!! so in total 25 sets, Argh i know i could get better wheels for the money its just i want them lol

. Posts : 4314 Join date : 2009-07-20

well its up to you at the end of the day mate if there are on 25 sets then get em and hold on to them they are bound to increase in value in the future !!!

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

lol i might Cool

we'll see

Junior Poster Posts : 57 Join date : 2009-06-20

A couple of examples for you, I've also seen a standard alloy converted
to take a BBS style dish insead of a banded weld.. :-D

I think you'll find more examples Stateside.

Banded alloys DSCF2580

staffs.V.duber Posts : 299 Join date : 2009-08-31

Those are interesting, I'd like to know how thats done as I thought once you welded alloys like that they'd need re-heat treating to give the strength back. The metal would go brittle at the edges of the Heat Affected Zone and be prone to cracking.

I had an alloy bike frame TIG welded up, the weld was strong but the rest of the frame was weakened. It lasted a while then cracked. Something as critical as a wheel needs to be done properly

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

Good spot simmo!!! Smile

where can i get it done Uk style!?

. Posts : 4314 Join date : 2009-07-20

i was under the same impression as buckers id like to see it done though bet its expensive my mate charges 25 quid an inch for alloy welding

Junior Poster Posts : 57 Join date : 2009-06-20

ChrisRivage wrote:: Good spot simmo!!! where can i get it done Uk style!?

I would imagine approaching an engineering fabricators.
They'll be able to tell you what's involved and prices.
I haven't got a pic of the added dish on a standard rim,
It all depends on the amount of alloy to thread.

I'll have a search, must have something from the vaults Thumbs Up

staffs.V.duber Posts : 582 Join date : 2009-07-08

lol good effort! I owe you a pint!