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PostSubject: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:20 pm

Ok so i got a set of original wheels but they are a woeful 6j! pffft

They are Ally what do you rekon are the chances of gettin a dish put on em over winter when they are off my car?? A similar process to banded steel but with my wheels obviously I'd need another set of wheels to butcher?!

Comments anyone? Shocked LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:47 pm

somehow alloy banded wouldn't be very good... you'd be lucky to find somewhere that would carry out this due to the stresses that would be put into the weld...

Steel is far stronger thats why you can band them...

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:49 pm

never heard of anybody doing this mate you could try but like jon says ally dosnt hold up to stress as good as steel thats why you can band steel the ally welds would prob crack if you hat a pot hole or a nasty bump in the road
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:10 pm

Thought so............
****! Ok next question anyone know anywhere that machines wheels? Cool i have a space station file ready to cut just need a fat arse lump of ally!
Actually the would probably cut a giant coin type piece then whack it in a loop and heat the fecker up but you know what i mean! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:16 pm

how much money is in your pocket?

to have a design turned into reality will cost you some serious £££

you've got the wages of the guy programming the 5 axis CNC, his time spent machining, the cost of raw materials, quality checks and the finishing..

unless you know someone with a machine capable then you'd be looking min £1500 depending upon how complex the design is.

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:39 pm

FWAAA lol basically i wanna get my wheels with a dish! Shocked but in reality its pretty hard! dunno what do.
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:11 am

the ones already on the golf? if so not gona happen... never seen any similar wheels with any dish...

your going to have to change them for actual wheels with some lips...

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:26 am

if your thinking of spending big money get a set of bbs rs mate would be cheaper than spending money and time on having a big piece of ally machined i mean the last time i weighted in ally i got 17 quid for 20 kg so it aint a cheap metal
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:16 pm

http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=69055&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:21 pm

Hmm what u rekon £300 notes?
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:24 pm

thought you wanted some dish?

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm

They look pretty similar to the la castellet's on you've got on now....
Infact, arn't they the same wheels?
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm

And the half inch lip isn't really noticeable..
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:41 pm

Hmmmm! Lol they are a little wider think it more noticable in real life!! wat u rekon give em a miss then? thumbs down
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:32 pm

some dish

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vw-Golf-Gti-mk1-mk2-RH-Deep-Dish-Alloys-ats-mim-borbet_W0QQitemZ280397046896QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET?hash=item4148f76470&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:19 pm

only 7 j thought
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:04 am

yeah the front is 7 j the rears are 8 j mate and they got dish them others aint worth 300 notes mate they batterd and all need a full re-firb
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:36 am

Unless you want crazy police pulling 8 or 9's on the front then 7's for the fronts are spot on...

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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:08 am

I guess il keep my eyes on them I think cheers
I have done some research on the dished le castellets there where on 50pairs made!! so in total 25 sets, Argh i know i could get better wheels for the money its just i want them lol
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:25 pm

well its up to you at the end of the day mate if there are on 25 sets then get em and hold on to them they are bound to increase in value in the future !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:39 pm

lol i might Cool we'll see
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:50 pm

A couple of examples for you, I've also seen a standard alloy converted
to take a BBS style dish insead of a banded weld.. :-D

I think you'll find more examples Stateside.



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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:33 pm

Those are interesting, I'd like to know how thats done as I thought once you welded alloys like that they'd need re-heat treating to give the strength back. The metal would go brittle at the edges of the Heat Affected Zone and be prone to cracking.

I had an alloy bike frame TIG welded up, the weld was strong but the rest of the frame was weakened. It lasted a while then cracked. Something as critical as a wheel needs to be done properly
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:12 pm

Good spot simmo!!! Smile where can i get it done Uk style!?
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:35 am

i was under the same impression as buckers id like to see it done though bet its expensive my mate charges 25 quid an inch for alloy welding
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:56 pm

ChrisRivage wrote:
Good spot simmo!!! Smile where can i get it done Uk style!?

I would imagine approaching an engineering fabricators.
They'll be able to tell you what's involved and prices.
I haven't got a pic of the added dish on a standard rim,
It all depends on the amount of alloy to thread.

I'll have a search, must have something from the vaults Thumbs Up
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PostSubject: Re: Banded alloys Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:29 am

lol good effort! I owe you a pint!
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