http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=24937
Thought this was quite funny, seems like most coppers are unsure of the laws! :lol:

Hahaha none of em have a clue!

There isn't a law at all on stretch, just poke..

But what they can use is the "unfit for road" due to having the incorrect tyres fitted for the size of wheel..

so do you think you could actually get pulled for stretch then?

All depends on the copper! If they want to pull you they will.. It's just one of those things.. Same as running german plates! We do it because it looks good and in respect of the tyres some of us need to stretch due to the offset of wheels fitted...

ive been pulled twice for german plates and my old man has so i dont bother with them anymore shame really as i think they look well cool espically with the d and some different spaces

ive just read this whole thing and ive never heard so much S**t in my life these people need to chill out a bit! all that and there was still no define answer by page 3

Quote "The picture in the first post looks like the rear wing of a Reliant Robin" What a tit!

Just a bunch of retard coppers trying to ruin someone else's fun!!
Just proves that if they really want to they can stick you for something. Barstewards!

yeah i know id love to quote some stuff in there to news papers like the " if it looks dodgy then it must be illegal"

Ive been pulled a few times when i had my alleycats on with quite abit of stretch They've never actually been able to do anything though as i always say show me something that says tyre streatch is illegal and they cannt lol

This bloke knows his stuff...

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The answer then and now I would suggest lies with the manufacturer and the simple fact is that Car designers have to comply with a whole host of legislation and specification requirements before a design is allowed onto European roads. Would the vehicle qualify for a certificate of compliance if those wheels were fitted to it? If the answer is 'no' from the manufacturers then such a modification is illegal.

And I'm sure that the tyre companies would have an opinion on this as well tyres are designed to withstand certain pressures and so on to meet road conditions.

But in my opinion if the driver cannot show that wheels fitted are within the specifications of the model of the vehicle then they are outside of the construction and use regulations under these circumstances.

I agree alot of the coppers arent sure on the rules but the essence is that before a car is sold in europe it must meet the current regs and directives (this is my job, witnessing the testing and making sure all is above board for vehicles and their components and systems approved by the UK govenment, e11 / E11) BUT once a car is sold it must comply with "Construction and use" which are UK specific regualtions, these regs basically just refer back to the european regs.

so for that they tyre should be mounted on the correct sized rim as stipulated by the tyre manufacture, and heres the one where most folk fall foul when running stretch....

the WHEEL must be covered fully by the wheel arch / gaurd through an angle of 30deg forward and 50 deg rearward of the centre line through the hub vertically,

This means that the old "the tread is covered when viewed from above" line means sod all, and if the copper pulls you over and he know his stuff you could well be facing a fine and or points for each wheel that does not comply


there are also other concers esp when running stretch and camber as tu will overheat and overlead the inside shoulder of the tyre which couldlead to a failure of the tyre and a crash, and in this case you dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to criminal charges and the insurance as it could be proved it was down to the wheel / suspension set up as to why the tyre failed.

you have been warned. :bounce:

In all fairness i think there were some tests done about giving stretched tyres some beans and a high percentage did pop off under hard cornering blah blah.

So im pretty sure the people that do this are well aware?

Give coppers a break lol, they aint all bad ahem



Jimski

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the WHEEL must be covered fully by the wheel arch / gaurd through an angle of 30deg forward and 50 deg rearward of the centre line through the hub vertically,

This means that the old "the tread is covered when viewed from above" line means sod all, and if the copper pulls you over and he know his stuff you could well be facing a fine and or points for each wheel that does not comply

hmmm... think they want to look closer to home before they look at us..... check out the poke from the wheel centers....

aahhh well you see, exterior projectios - 74/483/EEC consolidated to 2007/15/EC Exterior Projections - allows for this....


6.7.2. The wheels, wheel nuts, hub caps and wheel discs shall not exhibit any pointed or sharp projections that extend beyond the external plane of the wheel rim. Wing nuts shall not be allowed

6.7.3. When the vehicle is travelling in a straight line, no part of the wheels other than the tyres, situated above the horizontal plane passing through their axis of rotation shall project beyond the vertical projection, in a horizontal plane, of the external surface or structure. However, if functional requirements so warrant, wheel discs which cover wheel and hub nuts may project beyond the vertical projection of the external surface or structure on condition that the radius of curvature of the surface of the projecting part is not less than 30mm and that the projection beyond the vertical projection of the external surface or structure in no case exceeds 30mm


so you see the nuts are allowed to poke a little provided they are covered by a cover as described that meets the exterior projector directive.

so basically they bend the law to suit their needs.... :P

at the end of the day, stretch and poke will always be around... those folk who stretch know that speed is not an option, more often or not its for cosmetic purposes and practicality due to fitment of wheel.

its like most things fitted to a car, its personal choice.


so the person carrying out any of these mods to their vehicle knows the risks involved.

Its silly tbh, but its true everyone who does a mod like that no's the score!=

but if this guy pulled me for it ever id deffo pull over!

That thread is as old as the internet.